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Minutes of Advisory Committee on 
Control of Emissions from Motor Vehicles
held on February 03, 2005 at 1:00 pm
at the South Valleys Library
15650A Wedge Parkway, Reno, NV. 89511

PRESENT

Committee Members

 

Committee Chairman Ė Andrew Goodrich Ė WC-AQMD
Dennis Ransel, CC/DAQEM
Lloyd Nelson, DMV
Michael Uhl, CC/DAQEM
Sig Jaunarajs, NDEP
Steven Grabski, AG

Public In Attendance

Debbie Shope, DMV
Glenn Smith, DMV
Peter Krueger, NV Emission Testers
Ray Roach, NMTA
Thomas Lansford, DMV

1.    Call to Order

  1. Chairman Andrew Goodrich called to order the meeting of the Advisory Committee on Control of Emissions from Motor Vehicles at 1:10 pm.
  2. Committee introductions took place along with the public that was present.

2.    Approval of 08/19/04 and 11/03/04 Meeting Minutes

  1. Minutes of August 19th 2004 were approved with no changes.

  2. Minutes of November 3rd 2004 were approved with two minor corrections. Next to Andrew Goodrich it should read AQMD and item 4 paragraph D, change to discussed after Michael Uhl. 

3.    Emission testing requirements on Low Speed Vehicles and Hybrid Vehicles

  1. The DMV is interested in doing some major software upgrades to the emissions analyzers. Currently, they have 13 upgrades they want to submit for an estimated cost. In addition to those upgrades they would like to also inquire on development of test procedures for low speed vehicles and tri mobiles. Since this would be a rather large request and there is no certainty that it will be done at no cost, Lloyd Nelson would like to put it to the Committee to find out if it would be a wiser choice to consider exempting them from the program.

  • Q. Are tri mobiles currently required to be smog checked?

  • A. Yes
     

  • Q. How many of the tri mobiles are out there?

  • A. Approximately 50 at this point, but they are getting more popular.

    Committee Recommendation

    • The Committee would like to compare what is listed as a mobile-6 model versus actual registered motorcycles. Take a look at what the registration numbers are versus what we have in model and see if that matches up and then run that to see what the impact is. If we are talking about one percent I donít see much benefit by doing a smog test program.
    • Take a look at what EPA says the impacts of motorcycles are.
    • Sig will research to see if Nevada has the authority to ban certain type of vehicles off of Nevada roads? If possible, how is that done and by who?
  1. Another vehicle DMV would like for the Committee to consider exempting is the Hybrid vehicle. This vehicle will require a different test procedure through the OBDII to establish communication to the test equipment.

  • Q. Would this require an analyzer upgrade or procedure?
  • A. No, just a software change
  1. The Committee voted to keep the Hybrids in the smog check program. Eliminate Low-Speed vehicles from the program and review the figures on tri mobiles and motorcycles and form a decision from there. 

New Task:

  • Debbie will pull a report of the number of motorcycles and tri mobiles currently registered in Nevada.
      

  • Sig will research the authority to ban certain type of vehicles off of Nevada roads.
      

  • Lloyd will check on the test equipment and look into the upgrading of the licensing application because right now it does not license stations or inspectors. Once this is complete, development of a training portion for the industry for OBDII will be looked into.

4.    Update on Technical Subcommittee 

  1. Due to the budget hearings that were conducted before the I/M Committee Meeting, the Technical Sub-Committee Meeting was cancelled.

  2. The last time the Sub-Committee meet there was discussion on the motion of recommendations on alternative fuels for proposal to the DMV. In the previous meeting Sig received some ideas/input and put them into a motion. They were sent out for review to all Committee Members. Comments were received back and the changes were made. At this time, Sig requested that the Committee review the document another time. 

    Committee Input:

    • Number 5 flex fuel needs to be re-worded.
    • Do a 2-speed idle test if it is running on CNG or if it can go to/or is on gas then you will conduct whatever test is applicable for that model year.
    • On 1996 or newer OBD, CNG vehicles we may need to go back to the Procedure like what was used when we went to OBD. It will be pass/fail. Hook them up and try to do an OBD and if it does not meet the specifications for OBD then it will roll over to the 2 speed idle. You then still get the testometer reading through the OBD for it and then do the 2-speed idle. This may be a more convenient way to do a 2-speed idle.

New Task:

  • Sig will revise the motion with the additional input provided today by the Committee and present for review at the next I/M Committee Meeting. 

5.    Public Comment/Round Table Discussion

  1. Peter Krueger with Nevada Emission Testers spoke on the topic of the Biennial Testing Bill that was with Assembly Women Engle. Peter wanted to know what the agencies position was on this Bill. Clark County responded that they were not in favor of the Bill because it was not in accordance with their Federally enforceable SIP, which calls for annual inspections.
     

  2. Peter Krueger addressed the bill that was with Senator Mathews on I/M for all counties. Peter had meet with her on the bill and suggested being a little more specific. His suggestion was to include 2 or 3 specific counties to make more since from an air quality standpoint. However, after speaking with Dennis he now understands that it is zip code based driven. The Committee informed Peter that it is population based as stated in NRS 445B.770 and then zip code based. There is air monitoring in non-entertainment areas across the state and in all of the population areas. If the standards get close to exceeding, notifications are made. 
     

  3. Sig notified the Committee that the Environmental Commission met in November. NEP petitioned the Environmental Commission to make some changes to the I/M Program to help bring it in line with the statutory changes of bringing diesel vehicles up to 10,000 pounds. They also wanted to better define the extent of the I/M areas in both Washoe and Clark County. The Commission heard the petition and passed it as presented. Sig provided copies to Dennis and Andy and will email copies to Lloyd and Peter. 
     

  4. Sig brought up an issue related to State Alternative Fuels and Fleets Program found under NRS 486A. This is a State program that requires city, county and state fleets in Washoe and Clark County to run alternative fuel vehicles in government fleets. A Senator from the South pointed out that under the EPAC Program (which is the Federal Governments Alternative Fuel Program) there was a ruling by DOE that local government fleets should be exempt from the EPAC program. Currently, only State and Federal Government Fleets are under EPAC. However, in statue it is written that any government fleet that is exempted by federal statue or regulation should also be exempted in our state program. This means that we can no longer enforce the Alternative Fuels Program on Local Government fleets down in Clark County. EPAC does no apply in Reno. Clark County brought up that they have a rule in their SIP that has to be enforced. They will need to take this to the Attorney Generalís. Sig will also take this issue to his management. Sig brought up an issue related to State Alternative Fuels and Fleets Program found under NRS 486A. This is a State program that requires city, county and state fleets in Washoe and Clark County to run alternative fuel vehicles in government fleets. A Senator from the South pointed out that under the EPAC Program (which is the Federal Governments Alternative Fuel Program) there was a ruling by DOE that local government fleets should be exempt from the EPAC program. Currently, only State and Federal Government Fleets are under EPAC. However, in statue it is written that any government fleet that is exempted by federal statue or regulation should also be exempted in our state program. This means that we can no longer enforce the Alternative Fuels Program on Local Government fleets down in Clark County. EPAC does no apply in Reno. Clark County brought up that they have a rule in their SIP that has to be enforced. They will need to take this to the Attorney Generalís. Sig will also take this issue to his management. 

6.    Next Meeting and Adjournment

  1. The next I/M Advisory Committee meeting is set for May 12, 2005 at 1:00 pm. in Reno or Carson City. Andrew Goodrich will reserve the meeting location.
     

  2. The Meeting adjourned at 2:45 pm. 

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